Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Swami Agnivesh-The Traitor of Holy Movement
Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Evangelical Christianity: Devils in high places
By Yogesh Pawar
In his explosive new book The Armies Of God: A Study In Militant Christianity, British-born, Malaysia-based academic Iain Buchanan blows the lid off a subject that most scholars and journalists tend to shy away from: the rise of US evangelism as a force in global affairs.
His book looks at how some of the powerful evangelical outfits operate — often as US government proxies — in countries such as Indonesia, Thailand, and of course, India, and the disastrous effects this has had on the relationship between the Christian West and non-Christian cultures, religious communities and nations. He also unmasks the role played by the seemingly secular 'success motivation' industry, and its leadership gurus such as Zig Ziglar and Ken Blachard, who are not only management experts but also conscious agents of US-style Christian evangelism. Excerpts from an interview:
What led you to write this book?
I grew up in an agnostic family with respect for spirituality of all kinds — from animism to true Christianity. I suppose one of my strongest incentives for writing the book was to show how, in the West, inherently decent things like liberal secularism and Christian spirituality (no necessary conflict here!) are so deeply corrupted by political power and so dishonestly vaunted as marks of cultural superiority.
Not many would want to come out in the open and talk about the issues raised in your book. Was that a concern for you?
In the West, certainly, there is a reluctance to enquire too deeply into the affairs of organised Christianity — both at home and overseas. Western culture is a deeply, subliminally Christian culture, and even committed secularists have trouble avoiding Christian parameters in their arguments, and recognising the Christian capacity for wrong-doing. Among other things, this leads to a rather benign view of the behaviour of our missionaries overseas — fed partly by ignorance, and partly by a sense that the Christian mission can be equated with civilisation. And such myopia has increased dramatically over the past 40 years, as the secular West has managed to define a global order largely in its own terms, with decisive help from its Christian missionaries.By contrast, of course, the behaviour of non-Christians (especially Muslims) is scrutinised ruthlessly, misunderstood, and demonised.
Academics who have attempted to study the work of missionaries in India have been accused of helping the right-wing Hindutva brigade. Has this been your experience too?
The glib response to this would be to say that religious extremism of any kind needs to be exposed. But it is more complex than this. There is a need to go beyond the purely religious objection to Christian missionising, and examine the global forces which define it, and which are subverting countries like India in a far more comprehensive and profound way than most people realise.
A key contention of my book is that the extremism of Christian evangelicals is no more benign than the extremism found in non-Christian religious groups. Indeed, its local impact can be hugely destructive — precisely because of its ability to draw upon a vast global network of forces (including powerful secular ones), and its ability to penetrate and shape local forces, whether they be ethnic, religious, political, or social, according to alien priorities.
You speak at length of the US's use of Christianity for it own geopolitical designs. Is this manifestly part of US strategy worldwide?
Most Western leaders (not just Bush and Blair) will claim they are inspired by their Christian beliefs. Sometimes, as with both Reagan and George W Bush, they quote chapter and verse in support of policy, although usually it is not so blatant. Certainly, deep in Washington, self-professedly Christian pressure groups (like the Fellowship Foundation and the Council for National Policy) have a highly influential membership and a powerful grip on policy.
Of course, one can debate whether US strategy is manifestly Christian in inspiration-few Americans would say it is not, although most would probably insist that such strategy is guided primarily by secular concerns.
But there is no doubt at all that US strategy makes deliberate (and somewhat cynical) use of Christian agencies in pursuit of foreign policy — and that the distinction between the religious and the secular is deliberately blurred in the process. There are over 600 US-based evangelical groups, some as big as large corporations, and between them they constitute a vast and highly organised network of global influence, purposefully targeting non-Christians, and connecting and subverting every sector of life in the process.
Most of the major evangelical corporations (like World Vision, Campus Crusade, Youth with a Mission, and Samaritan's Purse) operate in partnership with the US government in its pursuit of foreign policy goals. World Vision, which is effectively an arm of the State Department, is perhaps the most notable example of this. There is also the benefit of a custom-built legislation, with the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 providing necessary sanction to bring errant nations into line.
This means that evangelisation is an intensely secular pursuit, as well as a religious one. In turn, of course, the secular powers, whether they be departments of state or corporate businesses, find such evangelicals to be very effective partners.
Indeed, most missionaries are not obviously religious. A case in point is the Success Motivation industry.Many of the most popular 'leadership gurus' — Zig Ziglar, Paul Meyer, Os Hillman, Richard DeVos, John C. Maxwell, and Ken Blanchard, for example — are not just management experts, they are also evangelical Christians and conscious agents of US-style evangelisation. Conversely, groups which, on the face of it, are primarily religious, may also serve a powerful secular agenda, such as the collection of intelligence, the grooming of political or commercial elites, or the manipulation of local conflicts.
Some accuse the church of fomenting dissent among poor tribals by exploiting them; others say the church is a liberating force. This debate has gone on for decades in India's North-East. What is your view?
The situation of India's tribal people, like that of tribal people elsewhere in Asia, is certainly tragic. And it may be that Christian activity offers an opportunity to escape the various forms of homegrown oppression — state and corporate abuse, Hindu contempt, and so on. But Christianity in India is a very diverse thing. There are many situations where the Christian church has taken firm root, and is deeply involved in local administration, social welfare, education, and so on. Nagaland is a case in point. There are movements for tribal welfare elsewhere which are Christian-inspired and doing excellent work.
But there are many cases, too, of evangelical missions which go into tribal areas with little respect for local realities, and with an agenda far removed from tribal welfare. In this, they may be no better and no worse than the home-grown oppressor. But there is an important difference. Such missionaries often belong to an evangelical network whose strategic purpose is defined elsewhere, and which has little loyalty to the local population, its cultures, its communities, and its welfare, let alone to the nation as a whole. This is particularly true of the new breed of US-inspired evangelicals, led by Baptists and Pentecostalist/Charismatics, who have spearheaded evangelisation over the past 50 years. It is the working of this wider, and self-consciously global, structure of behaviour which is of concern.
It is unfortunate that missions doing good work in tribal areas have their efforts tarnished by others whose approach is more opportunistic and exploitative. For the new evangelicals, distaste for paganism is just part of the equation — oppressed tribal groups are a relatively easy target to penetrate in a much wider war against non-Christians generally, and for influence in strategic (especially border) areas. In this respect, even a relatively long-established Christian presence — as in Nagaland — has utility as a strategic outpost.
These are turbulent times for India as its number of hungry and poor are growing exponentially even as the wealthy in the cities are becoming billionaires. Does this make harvesting of souls easy? Do missionaries love turbulence?
It certainly seems, sometimes, that evangelicals thrive on suffering and disaster. India's own KP Yohannan, for example, welcomed the tsunami of 2004 as "one of the greatest opportunities God has given us to share His love with people" — and he was only one of many expressing such sentiments. There is no question that many evangelicals exploit the poor and marginalised for reasons which have a lot to do with narrow theology and political self-interest, and relatively little to do with long-term practical help.
But evangelicals court the wealthy and the powerful of a society with equal passion. One of the most telling features of the new evangelism is the way it has turned Christianity into a force for protecting the rich and powerful. US Protestantism, in particular, has worked hard to undermine the impulse in the church towards social justice and reform. A measure of its success has been the defeat of Liberation Theology and the remarkable expansion of US Pentecostalism in Asia, Africa, and Latin America. More than a quarter of all Christians now belong to Pentecostalist and Charismatic churches.
In these, as in most new evangelical churches, great attention is paid to a 'theology' of economics which stresses individual profit, corporate obedience, the sanctity of making money, and the power of "miracles, signs, and wonders." This 'theology' is a key part of modern imperialism: it offers something to both rich and poor, it is safely counter-revolutionary, and it ties tightly into the wider global network of more secular influences (in business, government, education, the media, the military) which underpins Western expansion.
So the evangelical church has a key role to play in a society as disparate as India's. It is a form of social management: it gives divine sanction to the rich, it gives hope to the struggling middle class, and it cultivates discipline (and distraction) amongst the poor — and it does all this with a keen eye to the West's self-interest. This is not to suggest that India does not have its own mechanisms for doing the same things. But such evangelisation, as a concomitant of Westernisation, is bound to strengthen as India urbanises and looks ever more Westwards.
A recent issue of the Texas-based magazine, Gospel For Asia, says: "The Indian sub-continent with one billion people, is a living example of what happens when Satan rules the entire culture... India is one vast purgatory in which millions of people .... are literally living a cosmic lie! Could Satan have devised a more perfect system for causing misery?" How and why does such propaganda work in a developed country like the US in the era of the Internet and the media?
There are two important points here. First, we must not assume that the 'developed' West is free from wilful ignorance. Indeed, wilful ignorance is often a very useful weapon. We need enemies, and, as religious people, we need demons. The utility of Islamophobia is a case in point.Besides, there's a useful role for such bigotry within the system: as a foil for the liberal powerful to prove their liberal credentials.
But such attitudes are nothing new, of course. Christians have waged such 'spiritual warfare' against their enemies for centuries, and with the same kind of language. What is new is the vastly increased facility, offered by the electronic media, for fighting such a war. And this is the second point.
New technology is spreading, and hardening, such bigotry. Since the mid-1960s, the evangelical movement has systematically computerised its entire global operation, creating huge databases of information on its non-Christian enemies, centralising administration, and linking some 500 million 'Christian computers' worldwide for the purposes of fighting 'spiritual warfare' against non-believers in strategic places. And 'spiritual warfare', for the evangelical Christian movement, is not just a matter of prayers and metaphor: it is also, very decisively, a matter of 'virtuous' troops, tanks, and drones.
Monday, August 29, 2011
Legal Notice Issued To Congress President & Digvijay Singh By RSS Leader
Senior RSS leader from Maharashtra and national convener of RSS arm Samajaik Samarasata Manch,Mr Dada Idate issued legal notice to Congress Natioanl General Secy Digvijay Singh today.Ratnagiri based experienced criminal lawyer Adv Pradip Parulekar,has served a legal notice to Digvijay on behalf of Mr Dada Idate for his repeated objectionable and defamatory comments against RSS and other Hindu organisations.Also Adv Parulekar has warned that,when Digvijay Singh made these comments,Congress Party has never distanced itself from his views and hence Congress Party is also party in this case and if Digvijay Sing do not apologizes for his comments regarding his comments both ( Digvijay and Congress President) may have to face criminal case.For original legal notice Click HERE
Notice Digvijay Sing Dada Idate
Legal Notice Issued To Congress President & Digvijay Singh By RSS Leader
Saturday, August 27, 2011
New York police covert operation within Muslims
About the RSS involvement in the movement against corruption
August 26, 2011
Many communal leaders are making it look like that the involvement of
the RSS and its cadre in the movement against corruption as
'saffronising' the event. Of course, the term 'saffronising' for them
is with an intention to demonise the movement and make it look like
something that will harm the nation.
While the communal leaders are doing what would be expected of them,
this refrain has been picked up by the so-called secularists and
so-called intellectuals. Once again they have exposed themselves as
being on the same page as the communal leaders on issues.
If the RSS involvement in movements of importance to the nation is to be
seen as the movement causing harm to the nation, then one should say
that the fight against the Emergency of 1975 was also a communal affair.
It is well known that nearly 80% of those who were jailed during this
period were picked up ONLY because they were members of the RSS. While
many 'intellectuals', etc., talk with pride about their involvement in
the movement against the Emergency, they will never bring out the fact
that the foot soldiers belonged primarily to the RSS activists.
Some have acknowledged this fact, but only in passing, and that too once
or twice. Kuldip Nayar once wrote: "One day in July, at five in the
morning, there was a knock on my door. I was arrested and sent to Tihar.
The place was full of RSS workers."
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Of course, these RSS workers were not there as jailers, but as jailed!
If these 'secularists' and 'intellectuals' persist on ignoring this
fact, then perhaps they should be reminded what Jayprakash Narayan had
said, namely: "I believe you have a historic role to play.... I have
great expectations from this revolutionary organisation which has taken
up the challenge of creating a new India. I have welcomed your venture
wholeheartedly. Sometimes I have offered you my advice and have even
criticised you, but that was as a friend...There is no other
organisation in the country which can match you...The RSS should think
over this: how to bring about economic transformation? How to transform
the villages? [Jayprakash Narayan, in an address to a RSS training camp
in Bihar, November 3, 1977.]
It is yet another exposure of the bankruptcy of intellectualism in India
that they are able to resort to an argument only on the basis of labels
and not logic.
Friday, August 26, 2011
What Irom Sharmila Will Do With Anna Hazare?
AFSPA gives few strong powers to Security Forces engaged in anti-terrorism activities to search,arrest,detain and in rare cases to shoot suspected persons without any warning or in absence of any court warrant to do so.This special act has proved extremely effective in curbing militancy in N-E Indian states due to it's fast action taken by forces in case of emergency.
Irom Sharmila is fasting to press for demand of repealing AFSPA from Manipur.Security and Intelligence agencies suspect that militant groups are working secretly,under the guise of human rights groups to make AFSPA ineffective.If AFSPA gets repealed from militancy hit areas,then security forces will become toothless tigers and would continuously fell prey of militant strikes.Also powerless forces will face constant threat of being dragged in to human rights violation cases.
In such a scenario,if Anna Hazare,Kejriwal,Kiran Bedi or anyone associated with this movement invites Irom Sharmila to take part in a fast with Anna ji,the morale of security forces would hit the bottom.And the issue of repealing AFSPA would again become a national issue unnecessarily.
At present raising anti-national and pro-militant,pro-naxalite issues has become a status symbol for Indian intelligentsia, focusing Irom Sharmila on national level with Anna ji would needlessly target Security Forces fighting bloody battle with terrorists all over India.
Today,the people of North-East India are experiencing peace only due to incessant tactical and strategic pressure maintained by armed forces on militant groups.So the invitation by Anna's team to Irom Sharmila has surprised people of North East India and security apparatus also.
All are demanding immediate clarification from Team Anna.
Thursday, August 25, 2011
Vatican's Ramadan gift to Muslims!!!
We are spiritually very close to you: Vatican's Ramadan message to MuslimsWednesday, 24 August 2011 |
Rome, August 24: Vatican's office of interreligious dialogue has called Christians and Muslims as spiritually very close to each other. The Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue which issued this letter to all Muslims lists important challenges that two of the largest faith-based communities face and ask for cooperation for the common good. Dear Muslim friends, 1. The end of the month of Ramadan offers the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue a welcome occasion for sending you our most cordial wishes, hoping that the efforts you have so generously made during this month will bring all the desired spiritual fruits. 2. This year, we have thought to give priority to the theme of the spiritual dimension of the human person. This concerns a reality which Christians and Muslims consider to be of prime importance, faced as we are with the challenges of materialism and secularisation. The relationship that every human person has with the transcendent is not a moment in history, but is part of human nature. We do not believe in fate; we are convinced – moreover it is our experience – that God guides us on our path! 3. Christians and Muslims, beyond their differences, recognise the dignity of the human person endowed with both rights and duties. They think that intelligence and freedom are indeed gifts which must impel believers to recognise these values which are shared because they rest on the same human nature. 4. This is why the transmission of such human and moral values to the younger generations constitutes a common concern. It is our duty to help them discover that there is both good and evil, that conscience is a sanctuary to be respected, and that cultivating the spiritual dimension makes us more responsible, more supportive, more available for the common good. 5. Christians and Muslims are too often witnesses to the violation of the sacred, of the mistrust of which those who call themselves believers are the target. We cannot but denounce all forms of fanaticism and intimidation, the prejudices and the polemics, as well as the discrimination of which, at times, believers are the object both in the social and political life as well as in the mass media. 6. We are spiritually very close to you, dear Friends, asking God to give you renewed spiritual energy and we send you our very best wishes for peace and happiness. |
How Osama was killed-What happened that night in Abbottabad.
Shortly after eleven o'clock on the night of May 1st, two MH-60 Black Hawk helicopters lifted off from Jalalabad Air Field, in eastern Afghanistan, and embarked on a covert mission into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden. Inside the aircraft were twenty-three Navy SEALs from Team Six, which is officially known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, or DEVGRU. A Pakistani-American translator, whom I will call Ahmed, and a dog named Cairo—a Belgian Malinois—were also aboard. It was a moonless evening, and the helicopters' pilots, wearing night-vision goggles, flew without lights over mountains that straddle the border with Pakistan. Radio communications were kept to a minimum, and an eerie calm settled inside the aircraft.
Fifteen minutes later, the helicopters ducked into an alpine valley and slipped, undetected, into Pakistani airspace. For more than sixty years, Pakistan's military has maintained a state of high alert against its eastern neighbor, India. Because of this obsession, Pakistan's "principal air defenses are all pointing east," Shuja Nawaz, an expert on the Pakistani Army and the author of "Crossed Swords: Pakistan, Its Army, and the Wars Within," told me. Senior defense and Administration officials concur with this assessment, but a Pakistani senior military official, whom I reached at his office, in Rawalpindi, disagreed. "No one leaves their borders unattended," he said. Though he declined to elaborate on the location or orientation of Pakistan's radars—"It's not where the radars are or aren't"—he said that the American infiltration was the result of "technological gaps we have vis-à-vis the U.S." The Black Hawks, each of which had two pilots and a crewman from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, or the Night Stalkers, had been modified to mask heat, noise, and movement; the copters' exteriors had sharp, flat angles and were covered with radar-dampening "skin."
The SEALs' destination was a house in the small city of Abbottabad, which is about a hundred and twenty miles across the Pakistan border. Situated north of Islamabad, Pakistan's capital, Abbottabad is in the foothills of the Pir Panjal Range, and is popular in the summertime with families seeking relief from the blistering heat farther south. Founded in 1853 by a British major named James Abbott, the city became the home of a prestigious military academy after the creation of Pakistan, in 1947. According to information gathered by the Central Intelligence Agency, bin Laden was holed up on the third floor of a house in a one-acre compound just off Kakul Road in Bilal Town, a middle-class neighborhood less than a mile from the entrance to the academy. If all went according to plan, the SEALs would drop from the helicopters into the compound, overpower bin Laden's guards, shoot and kill him at close range, and then take the corpse back to Afghanistan.
The helicopters traversed Mohmand, one of Pakistan's seven tribal areas, skirted the north of Peshawar, and continued due east. The commander of DEVGRU's Red Squadron, whom I will call James, sat on the floor, squeezed among ten other SEALs, Ahmed, and Cairo. (The names of all the covert operators mentioned in this story have been changed.) James, a broad-chested man in his late thirties, does not have the lithe swimmer's frame that one might expect of a SEAL—he is built more like a discus thrower. That night, he wore a shirt and trousers in Desert Digital Camouflage, and carried a silenced Sig Sauer P226 pistol, along with extra ammunition; a CamelBak, for hydration; and gel shots, for endurance. He held a short-barrel, silenced M4 rifle. (Others SEALs had chosen the Heckler & Koch MP7.) A "blowout kit," for treating field trauma, was tucked into the small of James's back. Stuffed into one of his pockets was a laminated gridded map of the compound. In another pocket was a booklet with photographs and physical descriptions of the people suspected of being inside. He wore a noise-cancelling headset, which blocked out nearly everything besides his heartbeat.
- During the ninety-minute helicopter flight, James and his teammates rehearsed the operation in their heads. Since the autumn of 2001, they had rotated through Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, and the Horn of Africa, at a brutal pace. At least three of the SEALs had participated in the sniper operation off the coast of Somalia, in April, 2009, that freed Richard Phillips, the captain of the Maersk Alabama, and left three pirates dead. In October, 2010, a DEVGRU team attempted to rescue Linda Norgrove, a Scottish aid worker who had been kidnapped in eastern Afghanistan by the Taliban. During a raid of a Taliban hideout, a SEAL tossed a grenade at an insurgent, not realizing that Norgrove was nearby. She died from the blast. The mistake haunted the SEALs who had been involved; three of them were subsequently expelled from DEVGRU.
The Abbottabad raid was not DEVGRU's maiden venture into Pakistan, either. The team had surreptitiously entered the country on ten to twelve previous occasions, according to a special-operations officer who is deeply familiar with the bin Laden raid. Most of those missions were forays into North and South Waziristan, where many military and intelligence analysts had thought that bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders were hiding. (Only one such operation—the September, 2008, raid of Angoor Ada, a village in South Waziristan—has been widely reported.) Abbottabad was, by far, the farthest that DEVGRU had ventured into Pakistani territory. It also represented the team's first serious attempt since late 2001 at killing "Crankshaft"—the target name that the Joint Special Operations Command, or JSOC, had given bin Laden. Since escaping that winter during a battle in the Tora Bora region of eastern Afghanistan, bin Laden had defied American efforts to trace him. Indeed, it remains unclear how he ended up living in Abbottabad.
Muslim college teachers of Manipur demanded introduction of Urdu in schools
Wednesday, August 24, 2011
US intel investigating al-Qaida link to Eilat attacks'
Tuesday, August 23, 2011
Press Release by RSS General Secretary Bhaiyyaji Joshi at Ujjain Today
Sri Suresh Bhaiyyaji Joshi, Genereral Secretary of RSS
has conducted a press meet during the ongoing SAMANWAYA BAITAK.
Inspired by a single motto, the chief personnel of various Sangh Parivar
organizations that are active in social and national spheres assemble together
every 3-4 years with the intention of contemplation and planning. During the
meeting, there is a mutual exchange of various experiences too.
In the chain of these meetings, the interactive gathering at Ujjain has just
concluded, where discussions have been held on various aspects. Along
with this,
there has also been a deep pondering over the current social scenario as well.
Retrieval of black-money and prevalence of corruption has become a matter of
serious deliberation all over the nation. Against this glaring issue that has
been causing deep distress to the general public, the citizens' voice is now
being articulated as a sharp agitation. Be it the "Youth Against Corruption"
campaign launched by ABVP or the protest for implementation of ideals under the
initiative of Swami Ramdevji's "Bharat Swabhiman Trust" or the uprising under
the leadership of Anna Hazareji for the implementation of Janlokpal Bill, the
public participation and consent received in favour of these agitations are
indicative of intense nationalism and devotion to a cause.
The resolution passed at the "Akhil Bharatiya Pratinidhi Sabha" organized by
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, which concluded on March 2011, has stated clearly
that any form of protest voiced against corruption will be supported by Sangh.
Following this, the Swayamsevaks have been active participants in any such
demonstration. In a nutshell, this endeavor of ours will continue. Also, we
strongly believe that there is the necessity for an integrated and coordinated
effort by the different campaigners. It is vital that everyone moves forward as
one, in unity.
The decision of the ruling class was to stifle the agitation that has been
moving forward peacefully. The issuing and implementation of detention
against a
non-violent and organized campaign, instead of conducting peaceful negotiations
and deriving at amicable solutions is indeed beyond comprehension. In a
democracy, the duty and responsibility of the elected representatives
is to take
decisions and usher in peace, taking into consideration the citizen's views.
The Prevention of Communal and Targeted Violence Bill, 2011, to be
passed by the
National Advisory Council will prove to be disastrous to the social harmony and
national unity. The bill will wound the very roots of our
constitution. Not only
this, it is also bound to sow and reap the seeds of distrust and dissolution.
This has highlighted the communal and divisive mindset of NAC, which has
proposed the very Bill.
The proposed bill will disband the federal accord created by the constitution
and will destroy the rights bestowed on the nation. Hence, the government is
requested to nip the bill off, in the bud itself and ensure the nation's
security. By implementing this kind of bill, the NAC's commitment to national
integrity itself becomes dubious.
The Bill will be opposed tooth and nail by various organizations of
the country,
at different levels. It is the government's duty to make serious deliberations
before implementing something that poses grave threat to social
interactions and
national integrity.
Poor Christians demands Church Lokpal to curb corruption within Church
New Delhi : Christian Organisation Poor Christian Liberation Movement (PCLM) announces to give its support to anti-graft movement being led by social activist Anna Hazare. Christian leader and movement persident R L Francis said that Anna’s movement reflects people’s anger towards the movement. However, unfortunate thing is that government is consistently ignoring popular will of people. Protest of people is very natural and everybody knows that how critical is their participation in this movement against corruption and graft.
Christian leader R L Francis has expressed its surprise over criticism of Anna Hazare by Catholic Bishop Conference of India (CBCI). He said that how it is possible that church was portraying Anna, few days ago, as a true hero and suddenly they have realized that he is not hero but a villain. Poor Christians are demanding for Church Lokpal for a long time to eliminate corruption in the church. So, we support cause of Anna Hazare and his concern on the issue.
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